bring back !models yes or no?

[King]

bring back !models or leave it as they are?

[[DtK] [V] Angro]

herpdaderp edit:

the !models command is a neat trick to get out of -inside the stack- rebelling... but without it, it's really the only indication to ct's who's rebelling.
I prefer it :P if ya gonna rebel atleast take the risks.

[[DtK] [LM] Rowdy]

ango i think he means bring back the functionality of the !models command

i.e being able to change you model from the rebel skin back to default.

[[DtK] [Jedi] Lief-]

^^ i really like it, where u could injure a T and then use !models to hide it, at times it got really funny

[[DtK] [Jedi] IcePowered]

Really I don't see a valid reason for this, just rebellers who can't take being noticed

[[DtK] [Jedi] Muffbag]

if the CT's are paying attention, they would know who has turned into a rebel and who hasn't without even needing to see the rebel skin .... there's no harm in changing skins imo

[[DtK] [V] The-Rev38]

King top idea I reckon it needs to come back

[[DtK] [M] Fillet-o-Fish]

Oftopic: King I beleive you sig is to big?

Ontopic: I like the new skin but yeah bring it back so you can change from rebel skin to defult.

[[DtK] [T] conq]

If !checkplayers actually worked it wouldn't be a problem.

[[DtK] [M] Chaos]

Yeh great idea bring it back it's fun framing other T's than getting the ct's to slay for free killing


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[[DtK] [Jedi] Mr. Purplicious]

I personally like the fact that you can't change skins to hide rebelling.

if the CT's are paying attention, they would know who has turned into a rebel and who hasn't without even needing to see the rebel skin .... there's no harm in changing skins imo

If you have 22 T's in a stack and one bunks you, how can 'paying attention' find out who the rebeller is?

This new skins system has only been in place for less than a day. Why not leave it as it is and actually trial this.

[Luke]

Bring back the old bhop settings first

[King]

Oftopic: King I beleive you sig is to big?

Ontopic: I like the new skin but yeah bring it back so you can change from rebel skin to defult.

off topic: changed it
On topic: even when i was ct i didnt mind them using the !models command to change back to look like everyone else it was a challenge to find the sneaky bugger

[King]

I personally like the fact that you can't change skins to hide rebelling.



If you have 22 T's in a stack and one bunks you, how can 'paying attention' find out who the rebeller is?

This new skins system has only been in place for less than a day. Why not leave it as it is and actually trial this.

true i don''t mind trialling it i just wanted a public opion on what people thought atm its 9 for yes 9 for no so i dont mind trialling it

[King]

Bring back the old bhop settings first

you can still bhop away just not as fast get used to it nub

[[DtK] [Jedi] JasperSnail]

Heres what I think and I don't really mind either way.

1. If we bring back the !models option almost purely so people can change out of the rebel skin, then what is the point in even having it if no ones going to use it.
2. If we don't bring back !models, then as Purple said, CTs have an easier job of sorting out rebels in stacks. A CTs job is already difficult, why make it more so by making it so the CTs have to actually look for each individual rebel who's changed their skin back. It's a waste of EVERYONE's time. On top of this, when someone changes their skin back, but the CT doesn't know which T was shooting (but didn't kill) him. Then they might accidentily freekill another T who didn't shoot anyone. The rebelling T might drop the gun in the stack, theyll unstack, CT sees the T with the gun, shoots him.

[[DtK] [Jedi] Lief-]

the rebel skin and !models, just adds that little bit of mystery to it in my opinion

[[DtK] [N] STR4Z]

i prefer !models because it lets u pic which skin u like and if a ct was baiting and th t knifed him he wouldnt be able to change his skin back and the other ct would surely shoot him.
i rest my case
sent from STR4Z kids loyer

[[DtK] [Jedi] JasperSnail]

It's in the rules, that a T can't be killed for going rebel if he was baited. If he is its a freekill.
In more cases than not you turn rebel from actually rebelling.

[[DtK] [V] Trustworthy Trigger]

I agree with purple completely, it's completely IMPOSSIBLE to distinguishe which terrorist has shot you in a 10+ stack of T's with !models. This does make the CT job easier, this is completely legitimate when we have maps like lego,VIP,etc it's just a SMALL benefit for ct's. While this could cause freekilling, we already have the same problem considering it's not NECESSARY to use !models if you've been baited, or are a rebel as a result of a minigame. This only adds to the case though, it's up to CT's to distinguish who is a true rebel, and who is not... As simply as I can put it... Don't shoot someone you cannot confirm is a rebel, whilst they are wearing a rebel skin. Do shoot someone you can confirm is a rebel, even whilst not wearing a rebel skin... that simple people, you cannot confirm the people who shoot within a stack but a calm and collected CT team will immediately have the T's unstack anyway so this should not be a problem (9 times out of 10, during the unstacking the rebel will be spotted and shot mid-changing skins anyway)...

Heres what I think and I don't really mind either way.

1. If we bring back the !models option almost purely so people can change out of the rebel skin, then what is the point in even having it if no ones going to use it.
2. If we don't bring back !models, then as Purple said, CTs have an easier job of sorting out rebels in stacks. A CTs job is already difficult, why make it more so by making it so the CTs have to actually look for each individual rebel who's changed their skin back. It's a waste of EVERYONE's time. On top of this, when someone changes their skin back, but the CT doesn't know which T was shooting (but didn't kill) him. Then they might accidentily freekill another T who didn't shoot anyone. The rebelling T might drop the gun in the stack, theyll unstack, CT sees the T with the gun, shoots him.

Yes, a ct's job is difficult, though I don't think your last point is very valid, as like I said before a CT who would shoot someone they cannot CONFIRM as a rebel is usually not doing their job properly anyway.