Simon Says

[[DtK] [V] Stompy]

In addition to trying to improve the quality of our JB server, i wrote this post:

Simon says can be a particuly messed up game in JB. There are many little details that are stuck to like glue by the ct's trying to slaughter any t possible. lets start with the basics:

1) Warden: Ok t's, we're now playing a game of simon says.

2)Warden: Simon says jump: *t's jump, shot dead* "I didn'y say i am simon or simon says has started?
Well if you aren't simon, then why did you kill the t's for following your orders?

3)Simon says i am simon.

How can simon say that the warden is simon if there isn't a simon already? shouldn't it be The Warden Says i am Simon?

4)Simon says all t's jump: *T's jump, shot dead*
"Simon didn't say simon says has started"
Well you just told me that you are simon, so i am following your orders!?
Further more, if the original order before simon says started was "All t's unstack along the wall, stay on the wall once there" Then doesn't that imply that t's can jump? So if we aren't playing simon says then t's are entitled to jump on their spot on the wall!?

5) All t's go to my spray: *t's move, shot dead* THIS IS IMPORTANT: As you are the warden, and as you put it, simon says hasn't started, then thats an order for all t's to move! If you shoot them for not moving, you didn't say no detours no delays etc

6) Simon Says Simon Says has started: Don't know about you, but when i was in year 2 playing simon says, i don't recall simon being required to say this.

7) All T's Jump: *t's jump, shot dead*. Now if you want to have to say simon says has started then i probably believe you want to be this technical: If YOU are simon (as claimed), and You say All T's Jump whether or not you said simon says it is automatic as you are simon and whatever you say simon says? this is just really technical and probably unecessary so disregard this point.


As you can see, people have turned simon says into a really technical game from when i was young, which i suppose to a point is neccesary as anyone who isn't legally disabled shouldn't get mixed up in simon says so heres a few suggestions: Try and mix up simon says, as well as give more complicated orders, try and overlap simon says with oter games such as soccer *e.g. All t's start soccer, kill moving t's, Simon says all t's start soccer etc.

Just another way to help you guys be better and more creative wardens

-Stompy

[[DtK] [Jedi] TC_TopCat]

My suggestion is no not even bother playing it.
This is what I did the other night:
Okay, we are going to be playing simon says.
simon says i am simon.
All Ts go to my spray, no detours or delays.
*one guy goes there*
I shot everyone who remained where they were.

As far as I was concerned, simon says hadnt started and I gave a valid order. Everyone died except one person. This was not fun.
Dont bother with this crap game.

Edit: I never play Simon Says, I only did it this one time to demonstrate how ♥♥♥♥ing lousy it is.

[[DtK] [Jedi] Mr. Purplicious]

0_o. Id have to agree, its too fricken confusing. Whenever i play i just get them fooled without all the simon says hasnt started yet shit. Just make em do something without saying simon says :P

[[DtK] [Jedi] TC_TopCat]

It wouldnt be so bad if we had wardens who were less concerned with the technicalities on starting the game simply trying to kill Ts.
Id prefer to just start the game and fool them with the 'All Ts jump \ simon says jump \ make sure you return to default position' stuff.

[[DtK] [Jedi] Muffbag]

Effective IMMEDIATELY, Simon Says is now banned on DTK JB.

I'm sick and tired of in game arguments, steam complaints about this person not playing it properly, or that person adding their own rules in......

You guys and girls can't even stick to one simple version of one of the most boring games ever to be played on JB. ...
The ban on simon says is until I have sat down with a couple of the JB JA's (in MY OWN time) and come to a definate one way to play Simon Says on DTK JB.

Some of you say you're in agreeance with thinning rules down etc, getting the server down to a relaxed atmosphere ...
How the hell do you expect to accomplish that when people can't even stick to ONE VERSION OF SIMON BLOODY SAYS??

[[DtK] [Jedi] TC_TopCat]

^^^ This makes me happy.

[[DtK] [Jedi] Sly Fox]

thats solves that problem

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Simon says bow chika wow wow!!!

[[DtK] [V] Darkness049]

Simon says that simon is sad. :P

[[DtK] [Jedi] ELITE_PWNAGE_NUB]

Another sign JB Creativity is taking a turn for the better, you guys wanna cut down the numbers of ts? then have them do a race and left half of them live... or dont kill any of them and have ALL of them compete

[[DtK] [S] Krezand]

sorry for my language but about ♥♥♥♥en time we start banning some games!

[[DtK] [M] Rooster]

thank god this is gone it is so annoying

[[DtK] [M] foxxayy]

It got banned?
Dayum, I just think that our current approach to Simon Says is fine considering that it has been inherited by most of the Jailbreak Gaming Community, we have grown to familiarise ourselves to it, sure, outsiders may be astonished to of been killed in such predicaments but this is how our Simon Says has 'moulded' and I believe that if people want to come onto OUR server and play OUR version of Simon Says then you better get your head out of your ass and pay attention to how it works.

I would of rathered to continue playing Simon Says in the manner I currently do, but ah well, shit happened.

Foxxayy

[[DtK] [LM] Rowdy]

gonna have to disagree with you there foxxay, Simon says has turned from a simple game where the puzzle starts when the game starts(simply put) but now it has been bastardized into a game that has 3-4 conditions or orders that have to be given in sequence so that the CT's can get kills even before the game has started. just has become ridiculously complicated and it needed to be stopped

[WackTheSneakyBeast]

yea i hated simon says so i usally just slay lol

now its gone yay lol coolies

[[DtK] [N] Rain]

Foxayy from experience i know you like to trick people when playing Simon Says :P I know this dosnt meen anything but yeah.

[[DtK] [M] foxxayy]

It's not that I personally like the game and want it to stay, thats not neccesarily my viewpoint, its just that all the effort to get used to the current format or structure in which Simon Says is run will all be in vain, well, yes Nicholas I do enjoy tricking people with Simon Says orders but there is more to this situation then the unrealistic or spontaneous manner in which Simon Says is played.

In whole, I'm fine with the ban, but I just think there was a better way to respond to the game then banning it.

[[DtK] [Jedi] Mr. Purplicious]

This is not indefinitely guys, it will be back in the future.

[DevilsNinja]

BVecca, might i make it easy for when you have this meeting (i dont hate the game, but im going to suggest it). When some plays "Simon Says" in real life, do they have to claim they are Simon? No. So, in game, there should be no need for anyone to say "Simon says i am Simon", which is then shortly followed by "Simon says has started". Contradicatory? If a warden says we are playing a game of Simon Says, then that should be it, it has officially started until he calls the end of it. No problems, simple shit

[Blitz]

This problem isn't confined to just Simon Says and I don't think it can be fixed at all unless you change the goal of CTs from killing Ts to keeping them alive and occupied. Each person has a different perspective and as such they will see things how they want to see them. If even a simple game like Simon Says can be manipulated or misunderstood what can you expect from other more difficult games?

I think you really to need to ask yourself why people enjoy JB. Is it because of the games or the camaraderie? Personally I don't think many people enjoy the games played on JB with the exception of skill based games such as gun toss, obstacle course, etc.